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Two Punches then Kick

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Wed 30th Jul 2008 13:11
Joel Ashley Wilson

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i've heard conversations and read posts on the forum about the "two punches then kick" rule in sparring. i've never really thought about it til now after attending the European Champs in Sardinia, i couldn't imagine that rule working affectively.

1. how would the judges score should someone throw three or more punches then kick? minus a point? adding a warning? considering how fast the pace of some fights are, they could be deliberating over the action to take and miss following scored techinques.

2. do they stop when it happens? many two minutes fights have numerous stoppages for going out the ring, falling over, injuries, warnings, point deductions etc. so would it also incur a stopping period?

3. sparring would become predictable. if you must throw a kick after two punches, the opponent knows what the must do next. and how long do you have between the two punches and the kick? if its a fixed rule that throughout the whole two minutes you must stick to the rule, sparring will become stale and more kicking like WTF sparring.

this is just just general interest, how many ITF tournaments have used this ruling as this is the first time i've ever heard of it!

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Top Wed 30th Jul 2008 15:10
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Thought long and hard about how best to answer this topic, the pro's and con's of such a rule, how it would effect tournament sparring and how such a rule could be implemented. Came up with the following...
 
"The ITF under President Choi Jung Hwa DO NOT operate such a rule." Thumbs Up
 
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Top Wed 30th Jul 2008 15:59
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We use the two punch rule at our events - Our events are not billed ITF only ITF styled, We find the rule is a good one - yes it means you know what is coming but over the past 5 events we have seen bouts much more kicky then usual. Oftern bouts are punchy but we simply give a warning and the bout becomes kicky after.

Not all the ITF's have the rule and some that do have it will not endorse it - we were at a UKTA one recently and they did not endorse it but there ITF will.

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Just to clarify, in another post I stated the ITFNK operate the 2 punch kick rule.
At the Euro's the blitz was scored as one technique as opposed to a series.

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Top Thu 31st Jul 2008 11:32
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Quote from Mark Skyrme - 30th Jul 2008 15:10 View
Thought long and hard about how best to answer this topic, the pro's and con's of such a rule, how it would effect tournament sparring and how such a rule could be implemented. Came up with the following...
 
"The ITF under President Choi Jung Hwa DO NOT operate such a rule." Thumbs Up
 
Tae Kwon
Mark Skyrme
 
 

can't argue with that!!Approve
thanks sir. that clears that up for me, interest and worries gone!Big smile

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What I understand of the ITFNK rule it is any more than a two punch combination must be followed by a kick with the exception of jumping punches. so more than two punches is exceptable if followed by a kick as part of the combination. Not sure if it is a good idea or not . To many rules hamper our natural rythum. But there is a case that a lot of practitioners rely to heavily on punching techniques which make for scrapy and ugly bouts. Our art differs from western styled kickboxing which is often a place for poorly skilled failed boxers. With the aray of very technical kicks and there use needs to be promoted in our compitions. These compitions should be a place to promote skill and Teakwondo.
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